Black Lives Matter: A statement from Sean Kramer

Tubs at the Club is a website created and operated by white men. This isn’t by design, but it is the current makeup of our team. So, we may not always have the right thing to say on issues like these. But, we do have a responsibility to have these conversations. 

The recent unrest in our country has been troubling, eye-opening, and humbling to follow. The tragic killing of George Floyd is just one of the latest examples of the frustrating and unacceptable history of police violence in the United States. Protestors all around the United States are bringing up decades and centuries of frustration to the surface, and it’s our job as a community to listen. 

We want our communities to be safe for everybody, and we do not want violence. This starts with supporting the peaceful protests.

The black community is an invaluable part of the University of Idaho, including the athletics programs we support so fervently on this website. It doesn’t feel right to cheer for them on weekends if we are going to ignore their voices when they leave campus.

It’s not enough anymore to just proclaim to not be racist. We need to be active. We need to support the voices of those standing up to end systemic racism. We need to call out racism when we see it. We need to listen to black voices in our country asking for police accountability. 

Tubs at the Club is a platform for all in the University of Idaho community and this is a conversation we want to have. Please contact us if you would like to tell your story and give your thoughts on this issue.

Black Lives Matter.

– Sean Kramer

Could High Noon Big Sky & Pac 12 After Dark Help Idahos Deficit?

The University of Idaho is facing a bit of a budget crisis. In a rare feat of dumb luck, misfortune and geography, Idaho may be able to get creative in generating new revenue during the upcoming fall season in midst of the current pandemic.

The State of Idaho, for right or wrong, is moving along quicker than some neighboring states at reopening. With the recent announcement that students will be returning to campus in August, along with rumors the football team could report to campus as soon as early June, everything is pointing towards Idaho hosting sports come fall.

States like Oregon have said no sporting events until October. The California State University system has said it doesn’t expect students back in the fall.  It does not seem out of the realm of possibility that the state of Washington could say something similar and not allow sports within its state borders, seeing as the three states are apart of a joint COVID Coalition.

This puts our neighbors to the west in a particularly tough place. What if Washington State is not allowed to play sporting events in Martin Stadium come fall 2020? Is there a way to almost repay the “favor” they did for us back in late 90’s and early 2000’s?

Idaho at this point will have, we assume, already put into place proper precautions, procedures, and rules to be as safe a place as possible to host sports during the pandemic. All Washington State would have to do is bus the 8 miles to their new temporary home, play their home games in the Kibbie Dome, and then bus back. Idaho would obviously work out some sort of monetary deal for renting the Kibbie Dome. Whether it be a portion of ticket sales, concession, other game-day revenue, or just a flat fee depending on what the decided attendance structure even is (students only, season ticket holders only, completely empty?)

It also just so happens there is another school in a similar boat 77 miles away. It would be pretty cool having Coug, Eagle & Vandal doubleheaders in Moscow this fall.


Here is a hypothetical season in the Kibbie:

September 5th

  • Afternoon Kickoff: Idaho v Western Oregon

September 12th

  • Noon Kickoff: Eastern Washington v Western Illinois
  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Houston

September 19th (AKA Palousefest 2020)

  • Noon Kickoff: Eastern Washington v Northern Arizona
  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Idaho

October 3rd

  • Noon Kickoff: Eastern Washington v Montana
  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Cal

October 10th

  • Noon Kickoff: Idaho v Portland State
  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Utah

October 17th

  • Afternoon Kickoff: Eastern Washington v Idaho

October 24th

  • Afternoon Kickoff: Idaho v Montana

October 31st

  • Noon Kickoff: Idaho v Northern Arizona
  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Arizona State

November 7th

  • Noon Kickoff: Eastern Washington v Montana State
  • Evening Kickoff: Idaho v Southern Utah

November 21st

  • Evening Kickoff: Washington State v Oregon

November 27th

  • Afternoon Kickoff: Washington State v Washington


Big Sky at noon, followed up by ‘Pac-12 After Dark.’ That would be something else. Not to mention the added foot traffic coming to town to help those businesses that just penny-pinched to keep the lights on.

I understand that there are other logistics and more important health concerns that would need to be worked out to make this even remotely possible. We also aren’t even sure what the 2020 schedule will evolve into, as news is changing by the moment. It is an interesting scenario and alternative that the FBS & FCS programs in Palouse could look at. This is the outside-the-box thinking Idaho needs to be doing to conquer our financial woes. This call should at least be placed to the respective athletic directors on interest, if possible.

One last thought on this hypothetical,  Just imagine the Kibbie Dome parking lot on September 19th or even October 3rd…Heaven won’t be the only place without beer!

University of Idaho Vandals men’s basketball All-Decade team

Now that we’ve compiled the most definitive, trustworthy and legit All-Decade team for the University of Idaho Vandals football program we decided we’d go ahead and do the same thing for men’s basketball.

It’s been an interesting decade all around with players who’ve achieved history with the program individually, Top 25 upsets, postseason appearances, great conference finishes and overall an immensely more successful decade than the last. Unfortunately, it’s ended poorly and we haven’t actually gone dancing.

Still, we want to honor the best of the best who gave this program their all, putting it out on the court night in and night out to represent our great university and to try and restore what makes us proud about this Vandals program.

Six voters including Tubs at the Club contributors as well as friends of the site compiled their lists of a starting five and a sixth man bench player. We’ve compiled this to a First-Team starting squad, a sixth man and the rest of the bench to fill out 13 spots.

If you’d like to complain about our list, please hit us up on Twitter!

* = Consensus selection

(Cover photos from Spencer Farrin Photography. If you’re on the Palouse and have anything you need photos for, especially sports, please pay this man. He is an absolutely talented professional and you will find no better service for photography. You just won’t. Oh, and he’s a Vandal).

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Men’s Basketball All-Decade Team

Point guard: Victor Sanders*

Victor Sanders arrived in Moscow as an unbelievably under-recruited prospect from Portland powerhouse-program Jefferson High, home to the NBA’s Terrence Jones and fellow Vandal All-Decade teammate Stephen Madison. You’d think by the time Sanders arrived in the fall of 2014 programs around the Northwest would learn to trust players from that program. Their loss was Idaho’s gain. Victor left Idaho’s SECOND all-time leading scorer behind only Orlando Lightfoot. The lengthy guard changed the way Idaho’s packline defense worked, causing havoc with his ability to jump lanes and get transition started. He could drive, he could rebound, he was often Idaho’s best shooter when Connor Hill wasn’t on the court. He was an all-around talent who exemplified how Idaho recruited and developed prospects. The Vandals won 38 conference games in the last three years of Sanders’ tenure as he became a regular starter, and he also went 3-1 against Washington State. Most of all, Sanders was a fantastic teammate. The three time All-Big Sky selection sported Perrion Callandret’s No. 1 jersey on Senior Night in 2018 to show solidarity for his teammate who could not shake a terribly unfortunate injury situation.

2-guard: Connor Hill

The pride of Post Falls, Idaho expected to be able to head to Pullman under coach Ken Bone, but having only received a preferred walk-on he decided to keep it in the Gem State and head to Moscow instead. The Cougs probably regret that decision. Hill arrived in 2011 and graduated in 2015 as Idaho’s all-time leading 3-point shooter with 340 made treys in four seasons, and left as the fifth leading scorer of all-time. He’s since been bumped to sixth. Hill’s tenure included an appearance in the WAC Tournament championship game and a win over Washington State his senior season. Hill continued to develop as a seasoned shooter throughout his career, mastering the four-point play and needing only the slightest amount of space to get off his deadly snipes.

Small Forward: Stephen Madison*

Stephen Madison was not supposed to become as legendary as he became. Madison came to Moscow having been overshadowed at Jefferson High School by a pair of teammates who would end up at Washington and Kentucky respectively – and then the NBA soon thereafter. A lanky kid who was only comfortable shooting 3s, Madison became Idaho’s most lethal weapon inside the paint and the perimeter. He stretched the floor with his ability to pull up and shoot, and his ability to put the ball on the floor for drives or body up defenders in the paint if he wanted. He became a master at getting the line and coming up with big baskets when Idaho needed them. Madison was an All-Conference selection his senior year, barely losing out on Player of the Year in a tight contest with a rival from New Mexico State. His last game as a Vandal was in the WAC Tournament Championship game having left as the second all-time leading scorer in Vandals history at the time. Sanders has since bumped him down to third. Madison scored 51 points in the quarterfinals and semifinals of the tournament in order to get Idaho on the precipice of its first NCAA Tournament since 1990 before falling short.

Stretch Forward: Brayon “BJ” Blake

Brayon “BJ” Blake is the only junior college transfer to make the starting five, which just goes to show how good he was and just how important his impact was on this basketball program. Blake came to Moscow from North Idaho College, by way of Seattle powerhouse Garfield High. Blake was an instrumental part of a core of Pacific Northwest players in 2018 which teamed to put together Idaho’s most successful win total in 24 years, marking up 22 Ws in 2017-18 en route to a second-place finish in the Big Sky. Blake was a first-team All-Big Sky selection who collected 12 double-doubles and came 0.4 rebounds per game away from averaging one. Oh, and he smashed Washington State in his one contest against the Cougs in Moscow. Blake was a special talent, able to bang in the paint for rebounds and post points, but also able to step out and shoot comfortably. Defending him wasn’t easy, he was a versatile defender and he presented the coaching staff with lineup options. His senior season was pretty comparable to the season in which Kyle Barone won WAC Player of the Year.

Center: Kyle Barone*

Kyle Barone personified the transformation of the Idaho Vandals program from a cellar-dweller joke in the 2000s to a competitive force in the 2010s, which may not have been a great program but one that was going to make it difficult for teams to come to Moscow and win and put the program in a position to compete. Barone was a key component of two Vandal teams which finished third in a stacked, competitive Western Athletic Conference, beat Utah State in back-to-back seasons at home (including a season in which the Aggies were ranked), and went on the road to beat Pac-12 opponents Oregon and Oregon State in back-to-back seasons. Barone capped off all of that with a WAC Player of the Year campaign his senior season averaging 17.2 points per game and 9.7 rebounds per game. Barone is currently seventh all-time on Idaho’s scoring list. One would be tempted to call Barone a finesse player given his ability to pull up from mid-range and utilize space, but that wouldn’t do justice to a player who ended his career 260 offensive rebounds and 122 blocks in four seasons, two as an every-night starter.

Sixth Man: G Mike Scott

Mike Scott came to Moscow in 2013 when the Vandals had a point guard crisis with the departure of Landon Tatum. The season before featured a revolving door at the position in which nobody had made enough of an impact to hold the job down. The roster reshuffled, and in came Mike Scott from Antelope Valley College. Scott locked the job down mid-way through his junior season, with the coaching staff loving his ability to distribute and protect the basketball. His senior year featured an offensive transformation, becoming one of the best shooters on the squad and leading the Big Sky in assist-to-turnover ratio. Idaho didn’t quite have the depth to compete during Scott’s two-year tenure, though Scott was important in ushering the Vandals into the Big Sky and developing the younger of generation of player who would see the program attain success in its new conference. Scott allowed the Vandals to push the pace when they wanted with his speed up and down the court, as well as his ability to crash the boards to start transition.


G Landon Tatum, G Jeff Ledbetter, F Djim Bandoumel, G Perrion Callandret, G Deremy Geiger, G Mac Hopson, F Jordan Scott

  • Tatum (2009-2012) Started every game as a senior on a 19-win team. Calm, tactical floor general +++ Ledbetter (2009-2011) A pure shooter, played an instrumental role in an offense which beat Oregon and ranked Utah State in 2010-11 +++ Bandoumel (2010-2012) Definition of a role player, efficient scorer, versatile rebounder, great defender, didn’t turn the ball over. Key to the 2012 third-place squad +++ Callendret (2013-2018) Injuries couldn’t diminish the talent and hard work put in by Callandret, who still put up 900 career points, gave us electrifying dunks and contributed to the historic 22-win squad +++ Geiger (2010-2012) All-around guard and go-to scorer on 2012 third-place squad. Represented the Vandals with a long European pro career  +++ Hopson (2008-2010) An important part of Idaho’s transition into the current decade’s success, averaged over 15.4 points per game in his career, ushered in the decade by destroying Boise State down in Boise +++ Scott (2014-2018) Spent four seasons developing into one of Idaho’s best defenders ever, tough offensive rebounder coming from the perimeter, offensively efficient attacking the basket.







One Victor Sanders Mike Scott Mike Scott Landon Tatum Landon Tatum Mike Scott
Two Jeff Ledbetter Deremy Geiger Connor Hill Victor Sanders Jeff Ledbetter Mac Hopson
Three Stephen Madison Victor Sanders Victor Sanders Stephen Madison Victor Sanders Victor Sanders
Four Djim Bandoumel Stephen Madison Stephen Madison BJ Blake Stephen Madison Stephen Madison
Five Kyle Barone Kyle Barone Kyle Barone Kyle Barone Kyle Barone Kyle Barone
Sixth Man Connor Hill Connor Hill BJ Blake Perrion Callandret Connor Hill BJ Blake


Big Sky Podcast Network Big Sky Conference Football Power Rankings: Week 12

Somehow, we have just two more weeks left in the conference season. We know Weber State, Sacramento State, and Montana will play on. Montana State might need another win, and UC Davis can still dream if they win out. The rest of the league is playing for pride, next season’s narrative, and if a few athletic departments are less broke than average, a few coaches might feel their seats growing a bit warm.


Playing for Byes


1. Weber State
Overall: 8-2
Last Week: Win vs. North Dakota (30-27)
This Week: at Montana
Key Stat: Weber State is 2-0 versus current top-10 teams (Northern Iowa and Sacramento State).
Another Key Stat (conference only): In six conference games, the Wildcats have allowed just three rushing touchdowns.

2. Sacramento State
Overall: 7-3
Last Week: at Win at Northern Arizona (38-34)
This Week: at Idaho
Key Stat (conference only): Defensive lineman George Obinna leads the Big Sky in sacks (9.0) and tackles for loss (11.0).

3. Montana
Overall: 8-2
Last Week: vs. Idaho
This Week: vs. Weber State
Key Stat (conference only): Montana allows both the second fewest yards per carry (3.2ypa), and the second fewest rushing yards per game (112.2ypg).
Another Key Stat (conference only): Running back Marcus Knight has more rushing touchdowns himself (12 TDs) than seven Big Sky teams (Cal Poly, UD Davis, Idaho, Idaho State, NAU, SUU, and UNC).

In a Different World, We Could All Be Each Other

4. Montana State
Overall: 7-3
Last Week: Win at Northern Colorado (45-14)
This Week: at UC Davis
Key Stat (conference only): Montana State leads the Big Sky in rushing offense (256.7ypg), but due to injuries, no Bobcats are among the conference’s top ten leaders in rushing yards.
Another Key Stat (conference only): The Bobcats have three players (Troy Anderson, Amandre Williams, and Derek Marks) among the league’s top ten in tackles for loss.

5. Eastern Washington
Overall: 5-5
Last Week: Win at Idaho State (48-5)
This Week: vs. Cal Poly
Key Stat (conference only): Quarterback Eric Barriere’s 370.2 total yards per game leads the conference by an average of 51 yards per game (Case Cookus: 319.2ypg).

6. UC Davis
Overall: 5-5
Last Week: Win at Portland State (45-28)
This Week: vs. Montana State
Key Stat (conference only): Since throwing three interceptions in a loss at North Dakota, quarterback Jake Maier has thrown 13 touchdowns and two interceptions, while completing 66 percent of his passes.
Another Key Stat (conference only): After opening Big Sky play with 102 combined rushing yards in losses to Montana and North Dakota, running back Ulonzo Gilliam has averaged 150 rushing yards per game.


The Best of the Worst


7. Portland State
Overall: 5-6
Last Week: Loss vs. UC Davis (45-28)
This Week: Bye
Key Stat (conference only): Portland State’s three Big Sky wins have come against teams (Idaho, Southern Utah, and Northern Colorado) with a combined conference record of 5-14.

8. Northern Arizona
Overall: 4-6
Last Week: Loss vs. Sacramento State (38-34)
This Week: at Southern Utah
Key Stat (conference only): Northern Arizona has held opponents to fewer than 450 total yards just once (Montana State: 443), while allowing an average of 540.8 yards per game.

9. Idaho
Overall: 4-6
Last Week:
Loss at Montana (42-17)
This Week: vs. Sacramento State
Key Stat (conference only): In five Big Sky starts, quarterback Mason Petrino has accounted for seven touchdowns (six passing, one rushing) and 12 turnovers (seven interceptions, five lost fumbles).
Another Key Stat (conference only): The Vandals have both the third worst scoring offense (23.7 points per game) and the third worst total offense (393 yards per game).


Mercifully, It’s Just Two Weeks


10. Cal Poly
Overall: 2-7
Last Week: Bye
This Week: vs. Eastern Washington
Key Stat (conference only): Cal Poly has both the Big Sky’s worst scoring offense (20.8 points per game) and worst total offense (323.8 yards).

11. Northern Colorado
Overall: 2-8
Last Week: Loss vs. Montana State (45-14)
This Week: at North Dakota
Key Stat (conference only): Northern Colorado has the league’s worst scoring margin (-13.5 points per game).

12. Southern Utah
Overall: 2-8
Last Week: Bye
This Week: vs. Northern Arizona
Key Stat: Southern Utah’s two FCS wins have come against teams (Stephen F. Austin and Idaho State) with a combined FCS record of 4-13.

13. Idaho State
Overall: 3-7
Last Week: Loss vs. Eastern Washington (48-5)
This Week: at BYU (FBS)
Key Stat (conference only): During Idaho State’s active four-game losing streak, opposing quarterbacks have thrown 13 touchdowns and two interceptions, while Bengal quarterbacks have thrown five touchdowns and nine interceptions.